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		<title>By: krieg</title>
		<link>http://www.thetampabaytimes.com/2008/12/10/tampa-tribune-online-only/comment-page-1/#comment-279702</link>
		<dc:creator>krieg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 14:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there were scandals in sarasota before this?</description>
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		<title>By: Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; tampa tribune lashes out, promises no changes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sticks of Fire: a Tampa blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; tampa tribune lashes out, promises no changes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are fired up over at One Tribune Place these days.  After rumors of the printed paper&#8217;s demise (exacerbated by people who deliver the St. Pete Times), Editor Janet Coats and President/Publisher [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are fired up over at One Tribune Place these days.  After rumors of the printed paper&#8217;s demise (exacerbated by people who deliver the St. Pete Times), Editor Janet Coats and President/Publisher [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who are Janet Coats and Denise Palmer? No one I know has ever seen or met them - anywhere! Yet they presume to know what we want? They&#039;re clueless! Bring back our old Tribune!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are Janet Coats and Denise Palmer? No one I know has ever seen or met them &#8211; anywhere! Yet they presume to know what we want? They&#8217;re clueless! Bring back our old Tribune!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How curious to hear these complaints from the Tribune. A couple of weeks ago, my wife called to cancel our oTribune subscription and was told by someone with a heavy Asian accent that many, many people had complained about the changes to the newspaper, and that things would return to normal within a week. We agreed to wait it out, but nothing ever changed. There&#039;s nothing to read in it, at all. I called to cancel this week, and the operator (did they outsource this to India?) tried to talk me out of it, again. but the Tribune has lost all relevance to me. and now, it has lost its credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How curious to hear these complaints from the Tribune. A couple of weeks ago, my wife called to cancel our oTribune subscription and was told by someone with a heavy Asian accent that many, many people had complained about the changes to the newspaper, and that things would return to normal within a week. We agreed to wait it out, but nothing ever changed. There&#8217;s nothing to read in it, at all. I called to cancel this week, and the operator (did they outsource this to India?) tried to talk me out of it, again. but the Tribune has lost all relevance to me. and now, it has lost its credibility.</p>
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		<title>By: The life expectancy of the daily Tampa Tribune &#124; The Political Whore</title>
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		<dc:creator>The life expectancy of the daily Tampa Tribune &#124; The Political Whore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that I speak with expects) but because I thought I had missed it being verified. Sticks of Fire even picked it up. So I e-mailed the writer of the piece, the Democrat&#8217;s Gerald Ensley, about where this story [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that I speak with expects) but because I thought I had missed it being verified. Sticks of Fire even picked it up. So I e-mailed the writer of the piece, the Democrat&#8217;s Gerald Ensley, about where this story [...]</p>
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		<title>By: J Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 21:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your words ring so true. 

Janet has lied and reinvented her past for so long, I suspect she actually believes it all by now. She passed the same BS to this blog&#039;s founder in a lengthy email interview not too long ago that she has been telling people for years. She also flirted with him in that strange way that she does when she&#039;s cornered; I doubt she&#039;s ever noticed that she does that because she has the same level of self awareness as that lampost over there.

Let me expand on what I alluded to earlier. I&#039;ll start from the begining -- almost -- because frankly, if I had to rehash her &quot;poor-me&quot; Ooltewah, Tenn. stories, I&#039;d actually gag.

She was a reporter in a little town in Texas working for an editor named Kathy who wanted Janet to report on some local governmental corruption. When I&#039;ve heard Janet tell this story, she openly admits she didn&#039;t have the stomach for this kind of reporting and claims she hid out in the library or something to avoid doing a confrontational interview.

There was some copy editing, I think, and a little paper in Stuart, Fla. Onto the Suffolk bureau of the Virginian Pilot in Norfolk. Who can remember what she covered there? Or any story she&#039;s ever written; first-person, published accounts of being survivor of crime don&#039;t count. I&#039;m talking about anything involving reporting chops or narrative writing ability. All that mattered at the Pilot is that Janet won the affection of top editor Sandy Rowe (now at the Oregonian). 

Janet rises through the ranks but leaves her mentor for a tempting copy editing job at the Miami Herald. That job lasted a few months. Then Janet returned to the Pilot, quickly rising to a DME job. 

Flash forward a few years to Wichita, Kansas -- a place Janet speaks so fondly about. She was the youngest ME at 30, or so the story goes. Ask her today and she&#039;ll tell you she and her Public Journalism founding boss got along great. But that&#039;s not the real story. There was an affair or sexual harassment -- I&#039;ve heard the story both ways. Somehow, she bought herself some time there on the way out the door and managed to hook up with Diane McFarlin at the ASNE women&#039;s group. The Sarasota editor brought Janet to Florida as her ME -- almost a lateral move. 

Soon, McFarlin is promoted to publisher and Janet takes over as EE. A few years later after several staff turnovers and a few scandals, Janet leaves to join the Poynter Institute, a job with a tenure measuring in months.

Then, it&#039;s off to the Tampa Trib. It is here that she gets involved with a married subordinate. Not sure about the timing, but it&#039;s not a bad circumstantial case. Her marriage breaks up shortly after the DUI arrest because she calls her boyfriend before her husband. Janet spins this in the paper and in E&amp;P as noble. Said she called into the paper first so it could have the scoop on her arrest, which later led to a conviction not for drunk driving,  but for reckless driving. I think newspapers have done stories about how drunks getting plead down to reckless drives up all of our insurance rates, but maybe I&#039;m wrong.

Usually I&#039;d side with the camp who say even an enemy&#039;s personal life is off-limits, but here, she&#039;s brought it all to the workplace.  

Soon, her divorce is filed. Later, her married subordinate&#039;s divorce is filed. Hers  was about to go to a trial -- but a few days before her scheduled deposition, she settles the case and agrees to pay out the proverbial nose. Another subordinate from the Trib, Wendy Whitt, is on record as having been Janet&#039;s witness at her final hearing.

That brings us up to her present dismantling of yet another newspaper&#039;s staff. 

Goodness, that was a long story. But one this writer and reporter has been waiting to see put together in one place. Lord knows Joe Strupp over E&amp;P would never cast his old pal in such a light. 

One more thing: this post is both honest and bitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your words ring so true. </p>
<p>Janet has lied and reinvented her past for so long, I suspect she actually believes it all by now. She passed the same BS to this blog&#8217;s founder in a lengthy email interview not too long ago that she has been telling people for years. She also flirted with him in that strange way that she does when she&#8217;s cornered; I doubt she&#8217;s ever noticed that she does that because she has the same level of self awareness as that lampost over there.</p>
<p>Let me expand on what I alluded to earlier. I&#8217;ll start from the begining &#8212; almost &#8212; because frankly, if I had to rehash her &#8220;poor-me&#8221; Ooltewah, Tenn. stories, I&#8217;d actually gag.</p>
<p>She was a reporter in a little town in Texas working for an editor named Kathy who wanted Janet to report on some local governmental corruption. When I&#8217;ve heard Janet tell this story, she openly admits she didn&#8217;t have the stomach for this kind of reporting and claims she hid out in the library or something to avoid doing a confrontational interview.</p>
<p>There was some copy editing, I think, and a little paper in Stuart, Fla. Onto the Suffolk bureau of the Virginian Pilot in Norfolk. Who can remember what she covered there? Or any story she&#8217;s ever written; first-person, published accounts of being survivor of crime don&#8217;t count. I&#8217;m talking about anything involving reporting chops or narrative writing ability. All that mattered at the Pilot is that Janet won the affection of top editor Sandy Rowe (now at the Oregonian). </p>
<p>Janet rises through the ranks but leaves her mentor for a tempting copy editing job at the Miami Herald. That job lasted a few months. Then Janet returned to the Pilot, quickly rising to a DME job. </p>
<p>Flash forward a few years to Wichita, Kansas &#8212; a place Janet speaks so fondly about. She was the youngest ME at 30, or so the story goes. Ask her today and she&#8217;ll tell you she and her Public Journalism founding boss got along great. But that&#8217;s not the real story. There was an affair or sexual harassment &#8212; I&#8217;ve heard the story both ways. Somehow, she bought herself some time there on the way out the door and managed to hook up with Diane McFarlin at the ASNE women&#8217;s group. The Sarasota editor brought Janet to Florida as her ME &#8212; almost a lateral move. </p>
<p>Soon, McFarlin is promoted to publisher and Janet takes over as EE. A few years later after several staff turnovers and a few scandals, Janet leaves to join the Poynter Institute, a job with a tenure measuring in months.</p>
<p>Then, it&#8217;s off to the Tampa Trib. It is here that she gets involved with a married subordinate. Not sure about the timing, but it&#8217;s not a bad circumstantial case. Her marriage breaks up shortly after the DUI arrest because she calls her boyfriend before her husband. Janet spins this in the paper and in E&amp;P as noble. Said she called into the paper first so it could have the scoop on her arrest, which later led to a conviction not for drunk driving,  but for reckless driving. I think newspapers have done stories about how drunks getting plead down to reckless drives up all of our insurance rates, but maybe I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
<p>Usually I&#8217;d side with the camp who say even an enemy&#8217;s personal life is off-limits, but here, she&#8217;s brought it all to the workplace.  </p>
<p>Soon, her divorce is filed. Later, her married subordinate&#8217;s divorce is filed. Hers  was about to go to a trial &#8212; but a few days before her scheduled deposition, she settles the case and agrees to pay out the proverbial nose. Another subordinate from the Trib, Wendy Whitt, is on record as having been Janet&#8217;s witness at her final hearing.</p>
<p>That brings us up to her present dismantling of yet another newspaper&#8217;s staff. </p>
<p>Goodness, that was a long story. But one this writer and reporter has been waiting to see put together in one place. Lord knows Joe Strupp over E&amp;P would never cast his old pal in such a light. </p>
<p>One more thing: this post is both honest and bitter.</p>
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		<title>By: autismdad</title>
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		<dc:creator>autismdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 20:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the St. Pete Times wanted to plant a mole to disrupt the Tribune, they could do little better than hire Janet Coats. One question that remains, though, is whether Coats is simply cold and incompetent, or whether she&#039;s a shill for Media General&#039;s brass. Regardless, when J Black alludes to the pestilence of Coats&#039; professional, ethical and moral judgment, all we who have worked with Coats can do is sadly agree. Quick quiz: How do you get laid off by the Tribune? Do your job well and loyally, ideally for many years, gain the affection and respect of your colleagues, and engage the citizens of the Tampa Bay area with your excellence. How do you get promoted by the Tribune? Have a career path strewn with failure, get a humiliating, public DUI conviction, have an inter-office affair, leave your family, engineer a devastating, self-destructive redesign of the paper, and earn the contempt of almost everyone who works for you. Thus the glory that is Janet Coats. I do strongly agree with First Amendment Advocate about the need for a proper newspaper in Tampa (as in any city, big or small). The fact that so many citizens seem apathetic about the likely dissolution of the Tribune is shocking. I constantly remind people that, even before getting guns! guns! guns! into the Constitution, the Founding Fathers made sure the press would be an integral part of our republic and our freedom. No newspaper is perfect. Look to many of the Trib&#039;s endorsements over the years for proof of that. But its role in Tampa is vital, and the woeful TBO.com? I&#039;ve known journalistic watchdogs; journalistic watchdogs were a friend of mine; and you, TBO, are no journalistic watchdog. There should be a hew and cry over the imminent demise of the Tribune. But so many people have been brainwashed by this insidious, absurd notion of &quot;the liberal media&quot; that they seem to welcome being thrust into that place of ignorance the Founding Fathers feared. If the Trib does fold, then all power to the St. Pete Times. And a sigh of sadness for all the fine people still trying to make the Trib worthwhile, as they toil in the cold and clammy shadow of Mrs. Coats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the St. Pete Times wanted to plant a mole to disrupt the Tribune, they could do little better than hire Janet Coats. One question that remains, though, is whether Coats is simply cold and incompetent, or whether she&#8217;s a shill for Media General&#8217;s brass. Regardless, when J Black alludes to the pestilence of Coats&#8217; professional, ethical and moral judgment, all we who have worked with Coats can do is sadly agree. Quick quiz: How do you get laid off by the Tribune? Do your job well and loyally, ideally for many years, gain the affection and respect of your colleagues, and engage the citizens of the Tampa Bay area with your excellence. How do you get promoted by the Tribune? Have a career path strewn with failure, get a humiliating, public DUI conviction, have an inter-office affair, leave your family, engineer a devastating, self-destructive redesign of the paper, and earn the contempt of almost everyone who works for you. Thus the glory that is Janet Coats. I do strongly agree with First Amendment Advocate about the need for a proper newspaper in Tampa (as in any city, big or small). The fact that so many citizens seem apathetic about the likely dissolution of the Tribune is shocking. I constantly remind people that, even before getting guns! guns! guns! into the Constitution, the Founding Fathers made sure the press would be an integral part of our republic and our freedom. No newspaper is perfect. Look to many of the Trib&#8217;s endorsements over the years for proof of that. But its role in Tampa is vital, and the woeful TBO.com? I&#8217;ve known journalistic watchdogs; journalistic watchdogs were a friend of mine; and you, TBO, are no journalistic watchdog. There should be a hew and cry over the imminent demise of the Tribune. But so many people have been brainwashed by this insidious, absurd notion of &#8220;the liberal media&#8221; that they seem to welcome being thrust into that place of ignorance the Founding Fathers feared. If the Trib does fold, then all power to the St. Pete Times. And a sigh of sadness for all the fine people still trying to make the Trib worthwhile, as they toil in the cold and clammy shadow of Mrs. Coats.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarasota Alum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarasota Alum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cancer -- excellent word choice.</description>
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		<title>By: autismdad</title>
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		<dc:creator>autismdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 04:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the forensics team dusts the knife handle sticking out of the Tribune&#039;s back, the main prints they&#039;ll find on it are those of Janet Coats. She spearheaded the disastrous redesign a couple of months ago that resulted in more than 2,000 irate reader responses and a thousand dropped subscriptions, virtually overnight. She clearly has no idea what the difference is between news and information. Nor does she have any rapport with the staff. Even with all the exceptional journalists who have been unceremoniously dumped during her tenure -- Bob Ross and, ahem, me among them -- there is talent to spare at that paper, if only they&#039;re allowed to collect, organize and present NEWS -- not &quot;charticles&quot; and stunted graphics and squibs and briefs. Janet once said to the newsroom, in a jarringly dysfunctional moment, that she loves newspapers more than she loves being a mother. &quot;Maybe that sounds sick,&quot; she hastily added when she realized what she&#039;d said. This woman does not understand newspapers and certainly doesn&#039;t love them. The employees at the Tribune knows the days are numbered for newspapers; like me, all they want is for the Tribune to die with dignity. That will never happen under Janet Coats. If all of us who&#039;ve been laid off felt it was unavoidable in order to maintain the heart, soul and preservation of the Tribune, that&#039;s one thing. But we&#039;re victims of friendly fire -- at Little Bighorn. Janet is more than an embarrassment or a blunderer; she is a cancer. Merry Christmas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the forensics team dusts the knife handle sticking out of the Tribune&#8217;s back, the main prints they&#8217;ll find on it are those of Janet Coats. She spearheaded the disastrous redesign a couple of months ago that resulted in more than 2,000 irate reader responses and a thousand dropped subscriptions, virtually overnight. She clearly has no idea what the difference is between news and information. Nor does she have any rapport with the staff. Even with all the exceptional journalists who have been unceremoniously dumped during her tenure &#8212; Bob Ross and, ahem, me among them &#8212; there is talent to spare at that paper, if only they&#8217;re allowed to collect, organize and present NEWS &#8212; not &#8220;charticles&#8221; and stunted graphics and squibs and briefs. Janet once said to the newsroom, in a jarringly dysfunctional moment, that she loves newspapers more than she loves being a mother. &#8220;Maybe that sounds sick,&#8221; she hastily added when she realized what she&#8217;d said. This woman does not understand newspapers and certainly doesn&#8217;t love them. The employees at the Tribune knows the days are numbered for newspapers; like me, all they want is for the Tribune to die with dignity. That will never happen under Janet Coats. If all of us who&#8217;ve been laid off felt it was unavoidable in order to maintain the heart, soul and preservation of the Tribune, that&#8217;s one thing. But we&#8217;re victims of friendly fire &#8212; at Little Bighorn. Janet is more than an embarrassment or a blunderer; she is a cancer. Merry Christmas!</p>
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		<title>By: J Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>J Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the &quot;critic&#039;s&quot; review. I&#039;ve never thought of blogs as a forum for logical debate. Maybe you have a point about the bitterness though; that is one thing I&#039;ve known Janet to inspire in many folks over the past two decades. Hostile? Maybe. Janet certainly symbolizes much that is broken in newsroom upper management.

Lord, I haven&#039;t even touched on her questionable judgement - proffessional, ethical and moral. And no, I don&#039;t even know Rusty Coats&#039; aggrieved ex wife.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the &#8220;critic&#8217;s&#8221; review. I&#8217;ve never thought of blogs as a forum for logical debate. Maybe you have a point about the bitterness though; that is one thing I&#8217;ve known Janet to inspire in many folks over the past two decades. Hostile? Maybe. Janet certainly symbolizes much that is broken in newsroom upper management.</p>
<p>Lord, I haven&#8217;t even touched on her questionable judgement &#8211; proffessional, ethical and moral. And no, I don&#8217;t even know Rusty Coats&#8217; aggrieved ex wife.</p>
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